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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. During the FIRST DAY of one of my past internships (thank God I am done with that part of my career), I was to pitch a client to the Washington Post. We&#039;re not talking some small town weekly here. Washington Post. Not only was that frightening enough, but I knew literally nothing about the client other than what I read in a provided pamphlet. Needless to say, the results were not favorable. I also believe that interns should not run social media campaigns for similar reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. During the FIRST DAY of one of my past internships (thank God I am done with that part of my career), I was to pitch a client to the Washington Post. We&#8217;re not talking some small town weekly here. Washington Post. Not only was that frightening enough, but I knew literally nothing about the client other than what I read in a provided pamphlet. Needless to say, the results were not favorable. I also believe that interns should not run social media campaigns for similar reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Discala</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Discala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy,

I really enjoyed your post, and even though I am currently working as an PR intern, I agreed with many of your points.

I have to admit, however, that I found your point of &quot;Having an intern work on a client account (without authorization) is a no-no&quot; quite humorous. In my several years experience of interning, I know for a fact that agencies were billing my work at the AAE and the AC level, without the client&#039;s permission or knowledge that a lowly intern was doing most of their work. Nor is this limited to the smaller firms. I think you would be surprised at how widespread this practice is, especially among the top ranked PR firms.

Unfortunately, us interns are often some of the unsung heros of the company - picking up the slack, while others take the credit (and money) for our work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy,</p>
<p>I really enjoyed your post, and even though I am currently working as an PR intern, I agreed with many of your points.</p>
<p>I have to admit, however, that I found your point of &#8220;Having an intern work on a client account (without authorization) is a no-no&#8221; quite humorous. In my several years experience of interning, I know for a fact that agencies were billing my work at the AAE and the AC level, without the client&#8217;s permission or knowledge that a lowly intern was doing most of their work. Nor is this limited to the smaller firms. I think you would be surprised at how widespread this practice is, especially among the top ranked PR firms.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, us interns are often some of the unsung heros of the company &#8211; picking up the slack, while others take the credit (and money) for our work.</p>
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		<title>By: beckyjohns</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>beckyjohns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments, Alan. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed my post, I hope you continue reading!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I tried to structure my rebuttal to show Jeremy the other side of the coin. Although I disagree with much of what he said, I do also think that he makes some good points when considering first-time interns. Many of my points apply more toward more experienced interns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/7reasonstoletyourinternpitchyourstory/#comment-21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; title=&quot;&#8220;7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story&#8221; (http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)&quot;&gt;I&#039;m Working On It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Alan. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed my post, I hope you continue reading!</p>
<p>I tried to structure my rebuttal to show Jeremy the other side of the coin. Although I disagree with much of what he said, I do also think that he makes some good points when considering first-time interns. Many of my points apply more toward more experienced interns.</p>
<p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/7reasonstoletyourinternpitchyourstory/#comment-21" rel="nofollow" title="&#8220;7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story&#8221; (<a href="http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)</a>&#8220;>I&#8217;m Working On It</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stamm</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hear, hear! Smartly said, Becky.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though I&#8217;m waaaay past my only career internship at The Bergen Record copy desk in 19xx (don&#8217;t ask, won&#8217;t tell), I was ticked off mightily on your gen&#8217;s behalf at Jeremy&#8217;s ageist, elitist rant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He sounds so last century . . . as you tactfully, convincingly show. That fresh breeze is a wind that&#8217;ll lift your career.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[ And no, I don&#039;t write like that in client deliverables. =^..^= ]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well-done &#8211; &#8211; take the next two days off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/7reasonstoletyourinternpitchyourstory/#comment-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; title=&quot;&#8220;7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story&#8221; (http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)&quot;&gt;I&#039;m Working On It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear! Smartly said, Becky.</p>
<p>Though I&#8217;m waaaay past my only career internship at The Bergen Record copy desk in 19xx (don&#8217;t ask, won&#8217;t tell), I was ticked off mightily on your gen&#8217;s behalf at Jeremy&#8217;s ageist, elitist rant.</p>
<p>He sounds so last century . . . as you tactfully, convincingly show. That fresh breeze is a wind that&#8217;ll lift your career.</p>
<p>[ And no, I don't write like that in client deliverables. =^..^= ]</p>
<p>Well-done &#8211; &#8211; take the next two days off.</p>
<p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/7reasonstoletyourinternpitchyourstory/#comment-20" rel="nofollow" title="&#8220;7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story&#8221; (<a href="http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://beckyjohns.wordpress.com/)</a>&#8220;>I&#8217;m Working On It</i></p>
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		<title>By: Valerie Simon</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jeremy! You have sparked quite a debate on what responsibilities are appropriate for interns. I agree with Adrienne&#039;s comments- &quot;For the bigger stories, having interns do the research and possibly writing a rough draft pitch is excellent practice, and apart of the pitching process as I mentioned above. But I agree, for the bigger pitches let that come from someone who has either had a correspondence with reporter or who has a better connection to the client. &quot; An internship is a great opportunity to begin developing PR skills, including pitching the media, but it is important to recognize the significance of this responsibility and determine whether the particular intern has the experience, knowledge and savvy to pitch the particular story to the particular reporter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jeremy! You have sparked quite a debate on what responsibilities are appropriate for interns. I agree with Adrienne&#8217;s comments- &#8220;For the bigger stories, having interns do the research and possibly writing a rough draft pitch is excellent practice, and apart of the pitching process as I mentioned above. But I agree, for the bigger pitches let that come from someone who has either had a correspondence with reporter or who has a better connection to the client. &#8221; An internship is a great opportunity to begin developing PR skills, including pitching the media, but it is important to recognize the significance of this responsibility and determine whether the particular intern has the experience, knowledge and savvy to pitch the particular story to the particular reporter.</p>
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		<title>By: Summer PR Internships: Preparing for Your Future &#124; Fresh Ideas</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer PR Internships: Preparing for Your Future &#124; Fresh Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] against this practice, providing some excellent arguments against letting your intern pitch in a recent blog post.  Becky Johns, a recent graduate of Michigan State University&#8217;s Communication Arts and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story &#171; I&#8217;m Working On It</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>7 Reasons To Let Your Intern Pitch Your Story &#171; I&#8217;m Working On It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogging. I&#8217;ve been lacking inspiration, but today I was rejuvinated. This morning, I read a post on the Journalistics blog by Jeremy Porter entitled &#8220;Don&#8217;t Let Your Intern [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogging. I&#8217;ve been lacking inspiration, but today I was rejuvinated. This morning, I read a post on the Journalistics blog by Jeremy Porter entitled &#8220;Don&#8217;t Let Your Intern [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erika Wah</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika Wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sparking this discussion!

Jeremy, your point about organizations using a structured program is key. Without trying to sound like an ad, here at Simon Fraser University in Canada, Co-op Education (semester-long paid work experience, with learning objectives, supervision and training) is the way for motivated Communication students to get hands-on experience, build up their networks and graduate with a year or more of industry experience. Our students do not learn PR practices in their courses (degree courses are rich in Communication theory, history and research) but find the experience they get on their co-op work terms through the guidance of their employer, the best way to learn how to write a press release, pitch to the media, launch a campaign, etc.

To do this successfully, we tell our employers hiring co-op students these things:
- Give co-op students/interns a job description (so they know what you expect of them).
- Compensate them (so they are a valued part of the team and show up for work).
- Train them (so they can succeed).
- Supervise them (so you can make sure they add value appropriately and learn from your feedback).
By doing this, you invest in the future of the profession, and quite likely someone who will want to return to your organization at some other point in their career.

To those who posted here about students who have lots to offer, I couldn&#039;t agree more. We know a lot about Gen Y&#039;s motivation to make a difference (and hunger to take on the big stuff)! Yet, the rest of us Gen Xers, Boomers and Veterans all bring our own generational baggage to the table and what we expect. How are we all supposed to work together? How do we balance what our organization needs (a solid pitch to the media) and what we need (a chance to do the work/mentor someone else to learn the work)?

Some answers to this came out of  last week&#039;s IABC World Conference in San Francisco, where Anna Whitlow (Deveny) and Leah Reynolds (Deloitte) engaged us in a good session talking about what ALL generations have in common. They said, we need to focus on what we all want:

Balance
Be authentic
Recognized for contributions
Be respected
Be heard
Have interesting work
Feel secure in marketability
Have fun at work
Be drama free
Be compensated fairly

This goes for co-op students/interns/managers/frontline staff/CEOs of all stages and ages, don&#039;t you think? Perhaps I should send a note to Forbes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sparking this discussion!</p>
<p>Jeremy, your point about organizations using a structured program is key. Without trying to sound like an ad, here at Simon Fraser University in Canada, Co-op Education (semester-long paid work experience, with learning objectives, supervision and training) is the way for motivated Communication students to get hands-on experience, build up their networks and graduate with a year or more of industry experience. Our students do not learn PR practices in their courses (degree courses are rich in Communication theory, history and research) but find the experience they get on their co-op work terms through the guidance of their employer, the best way to learn how to write a press release, pitch to the media, launch a campaign, etc.</p>
<p>To do this successfully, we tell our employers hiring co-op students these things:<br />
- Give co-op students/interns a job description (so they know what you expect of them).<br />
- Compensate them (so they are a valued part of the team and show up for work).<br />
- Train them (so they can succeed).<br />
- Supervise them (so you can make sure they add value appropriately and learn from your feedback).<br />
By doing this, you invest in the future of the profession, and quite likely someone who will want to return to your organization at some other point in their career.</p>
<p>To those who posted here about students who have lots to offer, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. We know a lot about Gen Y&#8217;s motivation to make a difference (and hunger to take on the big stuff)! Yet, the rest of us Gen Xers, Boomers and Veterans all bring our own generational baggage to the table and what we expect. How are we all supposed to work together? How do we balance what our organization needs (a solid pitch to the media) and what we need (a chance to do the work/mentor someone else to learn the work)?</p>
<p>Some answers to this came out of  last week&#8217;s IABC World Conference in San Francisco, where Anna Whitlow (Deveny) and Leah Reynolds (Deloitte) engaged us in a good session talking about what ALL generations have in common. They said, we need to focus on what we all want:</p>
<p>Balance<br />
Be authentic<br />
Recognized for contributions<br />
Be respected<br />
Be heard<br />
Have interesting work<br />
Feel secure in marketability<br />
Have fun at work<br />
Be drama free<br />
Be compensated fairly</p>
<p>This goes for co-op students/interns/managers/frontline staff/CEOs of all stages and ages, don&#8217;t you think? Perhaps I should send a note to Forbes!</p>
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		<title>By: IT Data Centered &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should Interns Pitch PR?</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Data Centered &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should Interns Pitch PR?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the key takeaways that I saw and that other bloggers have commented on too is about who actually does the pitching. &#8220;Some firms trot out senior [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Porter</title>
		<link>http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/dont_let_your_intern_pitch/comment-page-/#comment-828</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t surprise me Sean. After four internships, I would expect most interns to be able to pitch effectively. I think you&#039;re looking at this from only one perspective, that of an intern. Of course you would feel strongly about letting an intern pitch, I would too. I think mistakes should be made in role playing and ongoing pitch practice. Once you go to live pitching, you&#039;ll still make some mistakes and learn, but you&#039;ll make far less. I&#039;m surprised a journalist has never hung up on you, you must be doing something right. Thanks for sharing your experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t surprise me Sean. After four internships, I would expect most interns to be able to pitch effectively. I think you&#8217;re looking at this from only one perspective, that of an intern. Of course you would feel strongly about letting an intern pitch, I would too. I think mistakes should be made in role playing and ongoing pitch practice. Once you go to live pitching, you&#8217;ll still make some mistakes and learn, but you&#8217;ll make far less. I&#8217;m surprised a journalist has never hung up on you, you must be doing something right. Thanks for sharing your experience.</p>
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