Comments on: Journalism 101: 16 Things You Learn In J-School http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/ Journalism and PR blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:47:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Cool Links #52: Football Camp Was Fun « TEACH J: For Teachers of Journalism And Media http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 Cool Links #52: Football Camp Was Fun « TEACH J: For Teachers of Journalism And Media Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:15:33 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-1650 [...] 13 – Journalism 101 is bucking the trend and defends J-Schools as valuable for the 16 Things You Learn in Journalism School. [...] [...] 13 – Journalism 101 is bucking the trend and defends J-Schools as valuable for the 16 Things You Learn in Journalism School. [...]

]]> By: Big Island Chronicle » Blog Archive » ***Commentary*** RIP, Walter Cronkite; A Moment Of Reflection On Journalism And News Reporting http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 Big Island Chronicle » Blog Archive » ***Commentary*** RIP, Walter Cronkite; A Moment Of Reflection On Journalism And News Reporting Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:16:40 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-1487 [...] Journalists web pages for more details about journalism ethics and principles. Also, in  “16 Things You Learn In J-School - Lessons From Journalism School,” the “Journalistics” listed are: name your sources; protect your sources; be objective; [...] [...] Journalists web pages for more details about journalism ethics and principles. Also, in  “16 Things You Learn In J-School – Lessons From Journalism School,” the “Journalistics” listed are: name your sources; protect your sources; be objective; [...]

]]> By: Becky Johns http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Becky Johns Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:47:20 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-211 <p>I’d say a lot of people my age go right to the internet for news. If we have feelings about a credible newspaper, we are likely to visit that paper’s site for the news. For example, I like the Detroit Free Press, I believe that in general, it does a good job of covering Michigan News. So, I’d much rather visit the Free Press website, or follow it on Twitter to read the daily headlines. Why buy a newspaper when it’s online for free? Why have a physical newspaper clutter my desk and make noise when I turn the pages when I can have the website up on my computer and periodically check headlines and browse content?</p> <p>Another big issue for my generation is that news is a constant stream of information. For many people in my parents’ generation or older, news was something that was delivered to your doorstep in the morning and after you read it, you went on with your day and waited for tomorrow’s news. For my peers, we know that news is happening every minute of every day and the internet gives us instant access, at all times, to the latest information. In many cases, between the time a paper is printed and the time I read it, information will have already changed. It is also very easy to pick and choose exactly what types of news we want to read (or listen to, or watch through video) which doesn’t expose us to clutter we don’t want.</p> <p>My point is long-winded, but the idea is that online news is credible for my generation, because growing up in a tech world, we’ve learned how to decipher what’s accurate and what’s not. If I can find the same information on more than 3 news sites, I assume it’s accurate.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://aribadler.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/if-you-build-it-they-will-read-it/#comment-299" rel="nofollow" title="“If you build it, they will read it” (http://aribadler.wordpress.com/)">5Ws</a></i></p> I’d say a lot of people my age go right to the internet for news. If we have feelings about a credible newspaper, we are likely to visit that paper’s site for the news. For example, I like the Detroit Free Press, I believe that in general, it does a good job of covering Michigan News. So, I’d much rather visit the Free Press website, or follow it on Twitter to read the daily headlines. Why buy a newspaper when it’s online for free? Why have a physical newspaper clutter my desk and make noise when I turn the pages when I can have the website up on my computer and periodically check headlines and browse content?

Another big issue for my generation is that news is a constant stream of information. For many people in my parents’ generation or older, news was something that was delivered to your doorstep in the morning and after you read it, you went on with your day and waited for tomorrow’s news. For my peers, we know that news is happening every minute of every day and the internet gives us instant access, at all times, to the latest information. In many cases, between the time a paper is printed and the time I read it, information will have already changed. It is also very easy to pick and choose exactly what types of news we want to read (or listen to, or watch through video) which doesn’t expose us to clutter we don’t want.

My point is long-winded, but the idea is that online news is credible for my generation, because growing up in a tech world, we’ve learned how to decipher what’s accurate and what’s not. If I can find the same information on more than 3 news sites, I assume it’s accurate.

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]]> By: Journalism Education, Preparing Future Journalists http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Journalism Education, Preparing Future Journalists Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:53:29 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-210 [...] always needed, solid fundamentals in the art of journalism. I’ve talked a bit about the basic journalism skills needed recently on this blog, but it’s important to reinforce this issue. First and foremost, [...] [...] always needed, solid fundamentals in the art of journalism. I’ve talked a bit about the basic journalism skills needed recently on this blog, but it’s important to reinforce this issue. First and foremost, [...]

]]> By: aribadler http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-209 aribadler Sun, 24 May 2009 13:54:18 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-209 <p>Jason, you make a good point about folks with contracts always enjoying the good times but sometimes not wanting to deal with the reality of the bad times. I also agree with you that people are so intent on making the E-editions profitable and are focusing so much energy on the new delivery methods that they may be pounding the nail in print’s coffin. But is that a self-fulfilling prophecy? Is print going to die because they ignored it? I know some people who dislike the new printed versions of the Freep and the News because of their layout. I’ve tried the E-editions and I don’t like them — they seem clumsy. Several others I know have commented about it the same way. I suppose only time will tell.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://aribadler.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/if-you-build-it-they-will-read-it/#comment-285" rel="nofollow" title="“If you build it, they will read it” (http://aribadler.wordpress.com/)">5Ws</a></i></p> Jason, you make a good point about folks with contracts always enjoying the good times but sometimes not wanting to deal with the reality of the bad times. I also agree with you that people are so intent on making the E-editions profitable and are focusing so much energy on the new delivery methods that they may be pounding the nail in print’s coffin. But is that a self-fulfilling prophecy? Is print going to die because they ignored it? I know some people who dislike the new printed versions of the Freep and the News because of their layout. I’ve tried the E-editions and I don’t like them — they seem clumsy. Several others I know have commented about it the same way. I suppose only time will tell.

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]]> By: aribadler http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-208 aribadler Sun, 24 May 2009 13:51:30 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-208 <p>Kurt, I think it’s great you enjoy reading the paper with your morning coffee and even better that your daughter is learning by watching you do that. I miss the days when I used to be able to sit with a morning paper and do that. It’s not the papers’ fault, it’s mine for being too busy or simply too stubborn to make the time to do that anymore. In our hurry-up world, I’m wondering if we’ve lost the ability to slow down and smell the newsprint, so to speak. We all talk about how great vacations are because we can do that. But can’t we do that at home, too? We just have to make the commitment.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://aribadler.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/if-you-build-it-they-will-read-it/#comment-284" rel="nofollow" title="“If you build it, they will read it” (http://aribadler.wordpress.com/)">5Ws</a></i></p> Kurt, I think it’s great you enjoy reading the paper with your morning coffee and even better that your daughter is learning by watching you do that. I miss the days when I used to be able to sit with a morning paper and do that. It’s not the papers’ fault, it’s mine for being too busy or simply too stubborn to make the time to do that anymore. In our hurry-up world, I’m wondering if we’ve lost the ability to slow down and smell the newsprint, so to speak. We all talk about how great vacations are because we can do that. But can’t we do that at home, too? We just have to make the commitment.

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]]> By: aribadler http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-207 aribadler Sun, 24 May 2009 13:49:28 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-207 <p>Becky, I think you make a good point about how your generation doesn’t see a printed newspaper as a top news source anymore. What do you see as a top news source — and does it have the same level of credibility and loyalty that older folks found in a local newspaper on their doorstep every morning?</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://aribadler.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/if-you-build-it-they-will-read-it/#comment-283" rel="nofollow" title="“If you build it, they will read it” (http://aribadler.wordpress.com/)">5Ws</a></i></p> Becky, I think you make a good point about how your generation doesn’t see a printed newspaper as a top news source anymore. What do you see as a top news source — and does it have the same level of credibility and loyalty that older folks found in a local newspaper on their doorstep every morning?

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]]> By: Freelance link love for week of May 24 « WordCount – Freelancing in the Digital Age http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Freelance link love for week of May 24 « WordCount – Freelancing in the Digital Age Sun, 24 May 2009 13:02:23 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-206 [...] 16 things you learn in j-school – Journalism basics [...] [...] 16 things you learn in j-school – Journalism basics [...]

]]> By: Jason Gillman http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Jason Gillman Sat, 23 May 2009 13:32:34 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-205 <p>Many of you have never felt the fresh paper in your hands still warm from the press, (yes.. “hot off the presses” means something)and might not appreciate the beauty of “web press” apparatus. Years ago I tried my hand as a publisher, and failed. I suppose looking back at it, it was my first attempt at “blogging,” because I saw things the local paper wasn’t reporting, figured I had some cool ideas on how to present coupons for advertisers, and plodded on forward with interviews, local perspective, and opinions.</p> <p>The paper was actually well received, and it was a FREE periodical. (10,000 copies of the first issue WAS a mistake.. lol) The ads barely paid for it, and there was a lot of room for improvement on the advertising revenues, (like actually asking the advertisers to pay would have helped.) but I didn’t have staying power, and nearly bankrupted myself. The final blow however, was two months prior to my last (July 4th) issue, the local paper “resurrected” a name of a paper that had been gone for 50 years, and followed my format to some extent. This “new” paper still exists 12 years after my last.</p> <p>There can be money in print yet. It is all in the formatting and presentation. The overhead of a large organization which must shrink or grow with conditions is the real battle. When the news or Free Press had HUGE subscriber bases, they made money, but the organizations of employees accepting contracts at that time are not nearly as amiable to accepting the new realities when the hammer falls, and changes need to be made.</p> <p>Technology and innovation CAN fix this for the print media, but I suspect the V2.0 management is trying harder to make the digital side a little more profitable, and attention to print might well be lost.</p> <p>Excellent post BTW.</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://aribadler.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/if-you-build-it-they-will-read-it/#comment-281" rel="nofollow" title="“If you build it, they will read it” (http://aribadler.wordpress.com/)">5Ws</a></i></p> Many of you have never felt the fresh paper in your hands still warm from the press, (yes.. “hot off the presses” means something)and might not appreciate the beauty of “web press” apparatus. Years ago I tried my hand as a publisher, and failed. I suppose looking back at it, it was my first attempt at “blogging,” because I saw things the local paper wasn’t reporting, figured I had some cool ideas on how to present coupons for advertisers, and plodded on forward with interviews, local perspective, and opinions.

The paper was actually well received, and it was a FREE periodical. (10,000 copies of the first issue WAS a mistake.. lol) The ads barely paid for it, and there was a lot of room for improvement on the advertising revenues, (like actually asking the advertisers to pay would have helped.) but I didn’t have staying power, and nearly bankrupted myself. The final blow however, was two months prior to my last (July 4th) issue, the local paper “resurrected” a name of a paper that had been gone for 50 years, and followed my format to some extent. This “new” paper still exists 12 years after my last.

There can be money in print yet. It is all in the formatting and presentation. The overhead of a large organization which must shrink or grow with conditions is the real battle. When the news or Free Press had HUGE subscriber bases, they made money, but the organizations of employees accepting contracts at that time are not nearly as amiable to accepting the new realities when the hammer falls, and changes need to be made.

Technology and innovation CAN fix this for the print media, but I suspect the V2.0 management is trying harder to make the digital side a little more profitable, and attention to print might well be lost.

Excellent post BTW.

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]]> By: dokkenator http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/comment-page-1/#comment-199 dokkenator Fri, 22 May 2009 19:37:18 +0000 http://blog.journalistics.com/?p=244#comment-199 <p>16 Things You Learn In J-School <a href="http://bit.ly/i1Q6O" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/i1Q6O</a> — great refresher from @jeremyporter</p> <p><i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://twitter.com/dokkenator/statuses/1885944465" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></i></p> 16 Things You Learn In J-School http://bit.ly/i1Q6O — great refresher from @jeremyporter

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